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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. Hello, google. I would like to introduce you to our chat logs. Chat logs, google. Google, chat logs.
We will discuss things here such as Mono, GNOME and Debian. We may even use it to talk about work on the DLR project stuff. Tags: colliertech, debian, dlr, freenode, gnome, irc, ironpython, ironruby, linux, mono, python, washington state ubuntu loco
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. Hey all!
I’m sorry I haven’t been very active with my packages recently. I all-of-a-sudden started grad school and have been swamped with studying. I also started a contract and have been busy trying to learn a new codebase while contributing something other than snark.
I promise I’ll get back to packaging IronRuby and IronPython on Mono for Debian as soon as things start settling down. Getting an A in the class is higher priority, though, sorry…
Don’t worry. I haven’t forgotten about you ;)
Cheers,
C.J.
PS, I am implementing a Perl library to exercise my understanding of the class. You can follow along at the search.cpan.org page for Lingua::HPSG or by cloning the git repo:
$ git clone git://karma.colliertech.org/colliertech/langparser Tags: c.j. insider, debian, free software, git, ironpython, ironruby, language, mono, perl, software
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. It looks like the upload of the Iron* languages to Debian is imminent. We’ve gotten the debian/watch file downloading a tarball of the git tag we’ve chosen for this release. This was the last bit meebey needed in order to present it to the maintainer of ironpython in lenny. He has agreed to let the Debian CLI Libraries Team adopt ironpython under the conditions that our packaging doesn’t suck and that he remains in the uploaders list.
Now that we have a package suitable for review, we have now presented it for said review.
Let me take a moment to mention how excited I am to be involved in packaging for Debian one of the first pieces of DFSG-compliant software sponsored by Microsoft. This is a true community effort with great work done by a lot of hard-working contributors. I believe that Microsoft has put its money where its mouth is with this project.
I have spent a fair amount of time criticising Microsoft for its “embrace and extend” sort of monopolistic actions. Having the somewhat unique experience of being a Debian GNU/Linux early-adopter and growing up in Microsoft’s back yard has given me the opportunity to bring up the concerns that the Free Software community has with the development practices of the 800-pound gorilla. To my surprise, the blue badger engineers with whom I have spoken have been responsive and even proactive in addressing the issues that have made Microsoft so combative toward the F/OSS development community. I see this as a very important step toward reconciling some poignant differences in the community. Tags: cli, colliertech, debian, dlr, free software, git, ironpython, ironruby, journalism, linux, microsoft, mono, software
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-August/msg00017.html
In addition, IronRuby/IronPython/DLR may make it in to FC 13, thanks to Brett. Tags: c#, debian, dlr, free software, ironpython, ironruby, linux, mono, software
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. The FLOSS Weekly folks (including my homie, Randal) just published this week’s interview. It is with Michael Foord, who I just met a couple weeks ago. He published a book about IronPython. He mentions Mono, the DLR and IronRuby, too ;) Tags: c#, cli, compiler, dlr, free software, friends, ironpython, ironruby, linux, microsoft, mono, perl, podcast, python, software
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. I sent an email to the Fedora Legal list asking whether they will accept software released under the MS-PL license. My friend and former colleague, Brett Lentz mentioned that he was concerned that the Fedora folks might not accept software released under the MS-PL. So I asked. I also bcc’d a certain troll on said mail so as to get lots of flame mail. I’m practicing to become a master twitterbaiter.
14:43 < cj> wakko666: so… we are building ironruby/ironpython debian packages over on OFTC/#debian-cli
14:43 < wakko666> k
14:43 < cj> meebey just packaged up mono 2.4.2.3 in .deb
14:44 < cj> with some backported patches required to get the DLR language engines running correctly
14:44 < wakko666> k
14:44 < cj> we’re using xbuild to perform the build, thanks to ankit’s recent patches.
14:44 < cj> alarm went off. need to address food.
14:44 < wakko666> i know that mono is already in Fedora.
14:45 < cj> great. any idea what version?
14:45 < wakko666> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30
14:45 < cj> we’ll need 2.4.2.3 + some patches. This is pretty bleeding edge, but I expect the fedora packagers are as ‘on it’ as the debian folks
14:46 < wakko666> fedora tends to be a bit further ahead of the curve than the debian folks
14:46 < cj> we can supply them the patches required. they are also being merged into the 2.4 branch, so should be in the next official release
14:46 < wakko666> k.. shouldn’t be a problem.
14:47 < cj> here is the tarball we’re using to build the .deb
14:47 < cj> http://github.com/mletterle/ironruby/tarball/20090805+git.e6b28d27
14:49 < cj> most of the stuff you’ll need as far as build commands go are in debian/rules:
http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-cli-libs/packages/dlr-languages.git;a=tree;f=debian;h=8e4c0abc01ba2db27fe66d508317cef3b574fd3a;hb=f3c10b84cf5f12cb670d14232263ac81662ff714
14:49 < cj> I’ve got to finish making lunch for kids ;)
14:49 < cj> back shortly.
14:55 < wakko666> cj: my main concern about packaging ironruby is licensing. Fedora will accept packages under the MS-Shared-Source license [ed: this is not at all true.], but the MS-PL isn’t on their list of acceptable license. [ed: it is now.]
14:58 < cj> wakko666: alrighty. jschementi is the guy to talk with about licensing issues. He’ll be back some time soon, I’m sure
14:58 < wakko666> of course, i can always write the spec file and you guys can host your own rpms, but it would be nice to actually get it into Fedora proper.
14:59 < cj> also, MS-PL is dfsg compliant and OSL-approved. Is it a decision to deny MS-PL or that it just hasn’t been reviewed yet?
14:59 < wakko666> not sure. we’d need to ask on the fedora-legal-list mailing list
14:59 < wakko666> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses
15:00 < cj> alright. at another time. it’s nap time for scarlet and zelda. ;)
15:01 < wakko666> sure thing. if you ping the fedora-legal list, let me know what they have to say.
19:49 < cj> wakko666: firestorm initiated.
Tags: c#, cli, colliertech, dlr, feds, free software, freenode, friends, git, humor, irc, ironpython, ironruby, language, linux, microsoft, mono, security, social networking, software, xbuild
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there. An update on recent changes to the IronRuby packaging.
- We’ve changed the name of the source package because
- We’re packaging IronPython as well as IronRuby (thanks doko!)
- I’ve added the wrapper scripts (irake, igem, etc.). Maybe this is showing that I’m not a heavy user…
- After building meebey’s packages and installing them:
$ cat /etc/debian_version && apt-cache show mono-xbuild | grep '^Version' | head -1
squeeze/sid
Version: 2.4.2.3+dfsg-1~pre1
- After installing my build of IronRuby:
$ apt-cache show ironruby | grep ^Version
Version: 0.9.0+dfsg-1
Tags: cli, colliertech, debian, dlr, free software, ironpython, ironruby, microsoft, mono, software
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Originally published at The Pædantic Programmer. Please leave any comments there.
cjac@dev0:/usr/src/git/alioth$ sudo dpkg -i ironruby-cil_0.9.0+dfsg_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package ironruby-cil.
(Reading database ... 67034 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking ironruby-cil (from ironruby-cil_0.9.0+dfsg_all.deb) ...
Setting up ironruby-cil (0.9.0+dfsg) ...
cjac@dev0:/usr/src/git/alioth$ which ir
/usr/bin/ir
cjac@dev0:/usr/src/git/alioth$ ir
IronRuby 0.9.0.0 on Mono 2.4.2.3
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>> exit
Tags: c#, cli, colliertech, debian, dlr, free software, git, ironruby, linux, mono, software
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